We know that microcurrent therapy is mainly used for orthopedic, sports medicine and traumatological diseases. Not least due to years of experience, numerous studies and publications.

But what about the use of frequency-specific microcurrent apart from orthopedic clinical pictures?

That’s what this podcast episode is about. In an interview with alternative practitioner Marita Gierlich, who has been using microcurrent therapy with the Luxxamed HD2000 + for several years and uses the microcurrent via TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) to help with autoimmune diseases, for example.

“Autoimmune diseases are chronic inflammatory processes. Approximately 5-8% of the world’s population are currently affected by around 80-100 different autoimmune diseases. “ (IMD Labor Berlin oD, p. 1)

In the case of ‘chronic inflammatory processes’ in particular, an indicated use of frequency-specific microcurrent could be assumed. McMakin et al. (2005) was able to show that pain caused by inflammation is reduced by microcurrent. 49 patients diagnosed with fibromyalgia caused by trauma to the cervical spine received microcurrent therapy. The initial average on the VAS (visual analog scale for describing pain intensity) was 7.3 out of 10 points. The final average after a completed series of therapies, however, was 1.3 out of 10 pain points. (McMakin et al. 2005, p. 172)

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IMD Labor Berlin (oD): What are autoimmune diseases? Available online at https://www.imd-berlin.de /spezielle-kompetenzen/autoimmun Krankungen.html, last checked on May 2nd, 2021.

McMakin, Carolyn. R .; Gregory, Walter. M .; Phillips, Terry M. (2005): Cytokine changes with microcurrent treatment of fibromyalgia associated with cervical spine trauma. In: Journal of Bodywork and Movement Therapies 9 (3), pp. 169-176. DOI: 10.1016 / y.jbmt.2004.12.003 .

00:00:00
Patrick Walitschek: Welcome to a new episode of Luxxamed GmbH, the podcast for frequency-specific microcurrent and microcurrent therapy in general. My name is Patrick Walitschek and in this episode I brought you an interview with me, namely with naturopath Marita Gierlich. She also uses Luxxamed or microcurrent therapy a little outside of classic pain therapy or sports medicine. Patients with autoimmune diseases are also an area where they have had very good experiences with the therapy. And with this in mind, I conducted an interview with Ms. Gierlich and I am pleased that the whole thing took place so well and so brilliantly and I don’t want to keep you tortured anymore – be curious about what’s going on outside of the Sports medicine and classic orthopedic areas of application still have options with the Luxxamed. Here for you directly from the practice: Ms. Marita Gierlich.

00:01:13
Patrick Walitschek: Hello Mrs. Marita Gierlich, naturopath. I’m glad that it worked for our podcast – even with some technical difficulties on my part at the beginning – to do the whole thing via video, which I think is currently the order of the day in all areas. I’m glad. Hello, Mrs. Gierlich!

00:01:34
Marita Gierlich: Hello Mr. Walitschek, I am also pleased that it worked, that I have the opportunity to explain the good experiences with the Luxxamed to others and maybe also the connection with autoimmune diseases and TCM, because in my opinion the Luxxamed is a lot can do much more than just cover the sports area and pain area.

00:01:58
Patrick Walitschek: Super. Ms. Gierlich, maybe you will introduce yourself, your practice, your focus and your work a little for the audience? I think that is certainly very interesting.

00:02:09
Marita Gierlich: My name is Marita Gierlich. I run a practice for traditional Chinese medicine in Sankt Augustin, Hangelar. I took over the practice in 2016 and that is my main focus with acupuncture, with nutrition according to the five elements. We incorporate a lot of Qigong that I also guide the patient and the five pillars that TCM offers in their properties, I also apply all of them except for Tuina. Tuina is a special form of massage in TCM. I just looked for a long time for a therapy device that could support me in my acupuncture, especially with longstanding chronic diseases. At some point I was introduced to the Luxxamed and it wasn’t really long for me to buy the device, because it just seems very logical to me and is easy to integrate into my therapies, because actually the microcurrent runs through the meridians, through the flow system and that For me it was almost a gift or a very good addition to my therapy.

00:03:27
Patrick Walitschek: Great, I think it’s great. But what you say, especially the combination with TCM and – looking a little outside the box, as you have also said in detail – sports medicine and orthopedic-physiotherapy areas, the microcurrent can also be of great help deliver. How do you do it now specifically for yourself? Now a patient comes to you, you take your anamnesis logically: What are the decisions, the motives and, so to speak, the strategy for you? When do you take the Luxxamed with you and where? Can you perhaps say something about this approach?

00:04:13
Marita Gierlich: When the patients come to my practice for the first time, I will of course take a very detailed anamnesis. Then I simply see how the system itself works with the elements that I use to treat: life energy, chi, blood and all of the body fluids can be determined in TCM through a pulse diagnosis. Then I first make a framework, a treatment concept initially with acupuncture, in order then to see how far I can get in the process of recovery in the case of chronic processes? How long does the whole thing take and then I always decide relatively quickly that I should also use the Luxxamed. Whether I use it via the meridians, via certain acupuncture points, which I would like to strengthen in their effect, or whether I choose a general system where acupuncture then works and the Luxxamed simply means reinforcement via the reflex pathways and reflex muscles and then of course the corresponding Program which is suitable in this case.

00:05:29
Patrick Walitschek: OK. And especially with the acupuncture points / meridian: Do you then mainly do this with the adhesive electrodes or do you also use light therapy for certain reflex points / acupuncture points?

00:05:41
Marita Gierlich: Definitely. So, for example, when I do knee treatments or pain treatments that are focused on a certain area, I definitely use the light electrodes to actually reinforce the effect at the location where it is happening.

00:05:58
Patrick Walitschek: OK. And from the point of view of the system – we talked briefly about it the other day in person: You actually rely largely on this system system.

00:06:07
Marita Gierlich: Yes, exactly, on the system. Because with many knee problems or back problems, if I treat them in isolation, then I have relief for the patient at that moment, which is also very important for the first time and immediately means a good experience for the patient, but experience has shown that the evil sits deeper – there is always the theory, especially in TCM: “After the root and after the branch” and in my opinion these local treatments do not get me to the root deep enough. That can then give the snapshot, the patient is relieved, but it can be – the whole system is connected to each other through connective tissue – that actually the cause is somewhere a back problem or another problem, it can also be an organic problem.

00:07:02
Patrick Walitschek: It’s super exciting, has nothing to do with preparation, but if you’re saying that with the overall system, with the connective tissue: I actually just have a book – you can probably not really see it in the video now – ‘Energy Medicine’ by James Oschman. This is a really super exciting book and also explains a little bit the basics of why the microcurrent also affects the system, how it is distributed, how the frequencies are picked up and so on, so I can recommend that, it really is a super exciting book. I will now put that into these show notes, i.e. in the episode description as a link for the listeners – who of course cannot see it here in the podcast – I can really only recommend that and precisely this part with the extracellular matrix, precisely the connective tissue area and this semiconductor system, i.e. the electronic management, is actually open because I want to write something there and that is exactly why we are also in the many seminars – with Matthias Rother, for example, who is very strong on this system preferred and also used, also in its physiotherapeutic context, i.e. also away from TCM – it simply shows that the system works across the board, i.e. with this systemic approach and then again selectively with the LED light heads, either actually locally Treat inflammation or other areas, such as acupuncture areas.

00:08:30
Marita Gierlich: I can also see from the course of the curve which system is in a hypermetabolic state. Then I have the blue light directly and then I can decide from there: Where does the light head go to treat the inflammation or irritation in the tissue beyond that.

00:08:54
Patrick Walitschek: That’s why it’s made so that you can see this feedback, this interaction, so to speak, and also see the rapid change. Now you said yes that you are also focusing on the area of autoimmune diseases: Can you maybe say a little more about that?

00:09:11
Marita Gierlich: So I have a lot of patients who arrive in the beyond of life, i.e. in the second half of life, where menopause has started and a lot is changing in the body. And after that, autoimmune diseases, especially in the gynecological area – so my experience, whether one can generalize that, of course I can’t say – because pain syndromes of different origins really set in in the gynecological area. I have had the best experience with the Luxxamed because I can simply go much deeper into the system so that I can do it alongside. I have had very good experiences with this, because some of the patients have severe relapses of pain. Especially now in spring and autumn, when the whole body, the whole flow of energy changes again, such attacks occur to a very bad extent and it took a long time for people to find confidence, because pain patients in particular are very, very sensitive , if you suggest a new therapy to them, until they really take this step, to hand over the responsibility and to trust the whole therapy and I find that the good thing about Luxxamed: He finds the way of the therapy – he always makes this feedback and gives Feedback, so that it also determines where the therapy actually has to take place and through the different programs – and I also work a lot in the vegetative area – this is really an absolute addition for me. The whole system is so stressed: On the one hand tissue from the pain and the patients themselves too, because they are very desperate and there is this vegetative balance – well, it’s like flicking a switch on the patient: So that works very, very good and I can only really recommend it to go on this path. I’ve now also listened to colleague Hock’s podcast and he actually reports the same thing. (unv.) always cause a dysregulation in the tissue, in addition, congestion, stress and pain arise and then I can actually treat any treatment or disease with the Luxxamed.

00:12:03
Patrick Walitschek: Super. That’s true. Especially Burkhard Hock, who is a bit special in his approach, but his success proves him right in his approach. It has also worked with the previous device, so it has been for a long time and that’s true, yes. He actually focuses more on the field of orthopedics – that is also his hobby and that’s why what you said is also the subject of ‘autoimmune approaches’ I find really exciting to go into the field. Have you noticed that the patients are also changing something – regardless of the pain problem / pain symptoms – from the vegetative to the psychological area?

00:12:46
Marita Gierlich: Definitely! I can actually report that from all my pain patients where I work with Luxxamed, that changes in the vegetative and psychosomatic areas are initiated all by themselves, is it really taking the courage to change employers under certain circumstances – that is yes, all disruptive factors that trigger over ten, fifteen years – it doesn’t even have to be that long, a year is often enough – that they really consider changing direction or reducing working hours: So that happens automatically and accompanying and that is amazing.

00:13:33
Patrick Walitschek: Yes Perfect. Maybe rounded off again for the practice process: How do I have to imagine that when I come to you as a patient? How long does an application / treatment last for you? Regardless of the anamnesis and the things – how long does the pure therapy last? How can I imagine that, also in combination with TCM?

00:13:54
Marita Gierlich: I think I always need an hour to an hour and a half. I often differentiate whether I let it run in parallel or run it at the same time. At the beginning I often do it one after the other so that people get a sensation or sometimes I just use the microcurrent so that you can even experience for yourself personally, “What is happening there? How do I feel after that? ” This is also the case with stroke patients, where the processes took place a long time ago – and that is unbelievable – the microcurrent itself will find the focus of what is happening years later.

00:14:37
Patrick Walitschek: Perfect, great. Now you have the new software version for the Luxxamed – can you say a word or two about that? Is there a particular program that caught your eye in particular? It wasn’t long ago that we did the update, but did you just notice any difference there?

00:14:54
Marita Gierlich: Yes. So for me the TCM is my main focus and there are some programs here also on the TCM – liver, bile and relaxation and such – that is particularly valuable to me and also all the metabolic stories that I can now address in a very differentiated way , I like it. I did the immune boost with my patients the whole time during the pandemic story, and I had very good experiences there, and that has now also been very differentiated as far as the lungs and immune area are concerned. The entire musculoskeletal system has been completely rebuilt, so I really think it’s a whole step forward.

00:15:50
Patrick Walitschek: Nice! I’m happy, great. That’s where we are at the moment: With this software version, we will be able to deliver updates much more easily in the future: I could send you an update file by e-mail and you would only need to put it on a USB stick and install it – it works now very, very easy. The data backups are now also very, very easy via a USB stick, so I think it worked out quite well. This area, too, where you now have the opportunity – so far only very few have used it – to build your own programs, actually only a few use it. We thought to ourselves: There were one or two customers who would have liked or wanted to have that and we said: “Well, we’ll do it, we’ll implement it”, although I can see that most of them don’t use it , because it is of course an effort to build your own programs there and ultimately it is also a question of time.

00:16:44
Marita Gierlich: But I still think it’s good and I think you just have to familiarize yourself a bit with the systematic way I can write a program, but I definitely find it a very good addition.

00:16:57
Patrick Walitschek: In the internal training area, there will definitely be inputs and video training on how to do this and which processes can be integrated and so on.

00:17:07
Marita Gierlich: I just wanted to point out that, so the whole video area: Sometimes it is difficult to really watch a podcast – you have to honestly admit it – but I have to say that it really is always an enrichment and I also learn a little bit from everyone further on.

00:17:24
Patrick Walitschek: Nice, I’m happy, that’s how it should be. I know that there are always dry topics that are not so interesting, and especially with a podcast where you can’t see anything now – we also have video content with the online training, so it’s a bit different. It will now also be in the summer because the current situation makes it difficult for us to hold seminars or only with considerable effort – but there will be a web seminar in June of this year, which will be streamed live again, this time with Matthias Rother: That will we here directly with us from the – we have implemented a small video studio here – and there it is again about this systemic component and the reflex muscles simply because we see that many use it, many are also interested and simple want to provide a little input there.

00:18:12
Marita Gierlich: That is very good, so I will certainly take part in that too.

00:18:17
Patrick Walitschek: Excellent! Then I say, Ms. Gierlich – thank you very much for taking the time for the interview.

00:18:22
Marita Gierlich: You too!

00:18:25
Patrick Walitschek: Then I would say: We’ll see you very, very soon, because we would like to carry out a little update for you, and until then I wish you all the best, good health and say ‘See you soon!’

00:18:40
Marita Gierlich: Thank you, Mr. Walitschek!

00:18:43
Patrick Walitschek: Bye!

00:18:43
Patrick Walitschek: That was the interview with alternative practitioner Marita Gierlich and her experiences with Luxxamed microcurrent therapy, sometimes a bit apart from classic pain therapy or sports medicine. I hope you enjoyed the interview and you were able to take away a few inputs, maybe also take a few ideas with you and as usual: If you like our podcast, subscribe to us. No matter where you hear us – give us five stars on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Deezer, wherever and if you have any questions, if you would like to be part of a podcast yourself: Write to us! You can find all contact details in the show notes via the link or at www.luxxamed.de. With that I say: Thank you very much for tune in, thank you for listening and see you next episode.